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		<title>By: experttease</title>
		<link>http://jungleg.com/2009/03/23/javascript-killed-the-firefox-star/comment-page-1/#comment-777</link>
		<dc:creator>experttease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read several responses to this issue around the web in the past few days, you can guess whose blogs! I&#039;ve found this post the most clearly thought out, not that I am in the same boat as you though.

I use Opera for all my browsing, because I use it as a full internet suite and it performs admirably, not to mention its vastly superior user interface (I&#039;m talking customisability, keyboard and mouse short cuts to name but a few) to the competition. As a suite, it integrates mail into the web, which means in a keyboard short cut/mouse click or two I can be composing an email related to the current page/after clicking on a mail:to link/after having highlighted some text or just because I want to write a new email.

To get to the point however, I recently began to use Picasa Web, so I knew I had two options for web app mode: Chrome or Firefox with the Prism plug in. I started out by using Prism simply because I had firefox 3 installed and not Chrome, and it worked pretty well I thought, except I couldn&#039;t remove the status bar easily, nor go back and forward without re-doing the web app, so I thought, let&#039;s give Chrome a shot just for kicks. I expected it to be faster at a Google web app than Firefox 3, especially given all the hype surrounding its javascript performance, but to my surprise Fx was actually less laggy! 

Yes, that&#039;s right, Fx handles Picasa Web better than the latest stable Chrome! I could compare minefield to the latest Chrome build but I can&#039;t be bothered, I&#039;m already using the Opera alpha and don&#039;t need any more installed.

Not only was Fx less laggy, but I prefer the way it refreshes pages (in the same way Opera has long given you the option to do), it doesn&#039;t redraw until it&#039;s all done, so you don&#039;t get the irritating flash of a blank page when you were looking at photos or whatever, it just flickers noticeably enough for you to see that it&#039;s finished refreshing.


You mentioned the possibility of Fx rewriting its codebase, and I have heard similar comments elsewhere which note that the Gecko engine is really old (Netscape) and not all that great with Standards as a result (it&#039;s been kind of hacked along the way to get mediocre Standards support).

Chrome is great as a simple browser, but I&#039;d probably have to wait five years for them to build up the basic features I&#039;ve become used to in Opera (15 years experience in browser development goes a long way).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read several responses to this issue around the web in the past few days, you can guess whose blogs! I&#8217;ve found this post the most clearly thought out, not that I am in the same boat as you though.</p>
<p>I use Opera for all my browsing, because I use it as a full internet suite and it performs admirably, not to mention its vastly superior user interface (I&#8217;m talking customisability, keyboard and mouse short cuts to name but a few) to the competition. As a suite, it integrates mail into the web, which means in a keyboard short cut/mouse click or two I can be composing an email related to the current page/after clicking on a mail:to link/after having highlighted some text or just because I want to write a new email.</p>
<p>To get to the point however, I recently began to use Picasa Web, so I knew I had two options for web app mode: Chrome or Firefox with the Prism plug in. I started out by using Prism simply because I had firefox 3 installed and not Chrome, and it worked pretty well I thought, except I couldn&#8217;t remove the status bar easily, nor go back and forward without re-doing the web app, so I thought, let&#8217;s give Chrome a shot just for kicks. I expected it to be faster at a Google web app than Firefox 3, especially given all the hype surrounding its javascript performance, but to my surprise Fx was actually less laggy! </p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s right, Fx handles Picasa Web better than the latest stable Chrome! I could compare minefield to the latest Chrome build but I can&#8217;t be bothered, I&#8217;m already using the Opera alpha and don&#8217;t need any more installed.</p>
<p>Not only was Fx less laggy, but I prefer the way it refreshes pages (in the same way Opera has long given you the option to do), it doesn&#8217;t redraw until it&#8217;s all done, so you don&#8217;t get the irritating flash of a blank page when you were looking at photos or whatever, it just flickers noticeably enough for you to see that it&#8217;s finished refreshing.</p>
<p>You mentioned the possibility of Fx rewriting its codebase, and I have heard similar comments elsewhere which note that the Gecko engine is really old (Netscape) and not all that great with Standards as a result (it&#8217;s been kind of hacked along the way to get mediocre Standards support).</p>
<p>Chrome is great as a simple browser, but I&#8217;d probably have to wait five years for them to build up the basic features I&#8217;ve become used to in Opera (15 years experience in browser development goes a long way).</p>
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		<title>By: Luiti</title>
		<link>http://jungleg.com/2009/03/23/javascript-killed-the-firefox-star/comment-page-1/#comment-752</link>
		<dc:creator>Luiti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great post! It&#039;s super interesting and the truth is that it&#039;s happened to me, I&#039;m using Safari after being a Firefox fan, but it&#039;s because, to me, Firefox is not the same. I feel like it&#039;s super slow, specially if I&#039;m watching YouTube videos... it&#039;s stressing. I have a mac mini with 512 mb of RAM, 1.25 ghz.. yes, I know it&#039;s a slow machine, but that&#039;s exactly why I need a browser that adapts to my needs... I can&#039;t wait that Chrome is released for Mac, but for now, Safari, for me, work really well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great post! It&#8217;s super interesting and the truth is that it&#8217;s happened to me, I&#8217;m using Safari after being a Firefox fan, but it&#8217;s because, to me, Firefox is not the same. I feel like it&#8217;s super slow, specially if I&#8217;m watching YouTube videos&#8230; it&#8217;s stressing. I have a mac mini with 512 mb of RAM, 1.25 ghz.. yes, I know it&#8217;s a slow machine, but that&#8217;s exactly why I need a browser that adapts to my needs&#8230; I can&#8217;t wait that Chrome is released for Mac, but for now, Safari, for me, work really well.</p>
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